Video: From Busy Work to Better Work: How Quickbase Customers Ditched Legacy Systems and Spreadsheets | Duration: 2980s | Summary: From Busy Work to Better Work: How Quickbase Customers Ditched Legacy Systems and Spreadsheets | Chapters: Webinar Welcome Introduction (0s), Introducing Maria Anderson (252.125s), System Upgrade Challenges (426.565s), Quickbase Implementation Benefits (699.305s), Implementing Quickbase Modules (972.525s), Risk Management Process (1281.365s), Positive Feedback and Savings (1824.68s), Investing in Efficiency (2145.1s), Closing Q&A Session (2208.46s), Conclusion and Farewell (2314.745s)
Transcript for "From Busy Work to Better Work: How Quickbase Customers Ditched Legacy Systems and Spreadsheets": Hello, everyone. Welcome to our webinar today. I am super excited to be chatting about how East River Electric was able to ditch their, legacy project management system in favor of Quickbase. We've got a super exciting case study lined up for EverOwn today. We have quite a few people getting dialed in right now, still connecting to audio. So we're gonna wait about one more minute before we actually get started and dive into that case study. But while we are waiting, looks like a lot of you are already dropping in, in the chat where you're joining us from, which is great because that's always my first question on these webinars. So it seems like many of you have, attended these webinars before. So appreciate that. Let us know where you're joining from in the chat. Got a couple of fellow Minnesotans in the chat there. I love that. I'm in Minneapolis, Minnesota myself. Would also love to know because, if you guys check your email about an hour ago, we sent out our hour reminder to join this round table, and we included a little gift card for a coffee in there as well. So I'm also curious for people to let us know, either what they got with that gift card or what their go to coffee order is, just to mix it up on you all a little bit as you are ahead of the game dropping the locations in the chat here. Alright. So we do have quite a few people join, so I think we are good to dive in. But, again, keep dropping in the chat where you're from, your go to coffee order. Love to read through those, get to know everyone a little bit better even though we can't see all of your faces. It's always, nice to do that. So today, we are talking a little bit about, East River Electric and how they are leveraging, Quickbase, which is a super cool story. We have an awesome guest speaker, and I'm not gonna talk too long. I'm gonna let let these guys, really dive into that story, but a few housekeeping items before we get started. First and foremost, we are recording this session, so it will be made available, on demand, tomorrow. So take a look in your email for that recording tomorrow. Feel free to share it out with any, team members who weren't able to make it. Or if you can't, you know, stay on the whole time or want to revisit any parts of it, you will be able to do that. In terms of the actual content, we do have quite a few questions for, Maria, our speaker from East River Electric, but we want to make sure that while she is here with us, you all are able to ask her questions as well. So there is a q and a box right by the chat where a lot of you are chatting in right now. So feel free at any time throughout the duration of this webinar to drop in any questions that you have for Maria or for myself and Michelle on the Quickbase side as well. Last but not least, a couple of giveaways tied to this webinar. I mentioned the coffee a little bit earlier. Make sure that you check your email for that email that came, about an hour ago with the webinar link and a link to, grab a gift card for a free coffee on quick base as a thank you for joining us. That link does expire over the weekend, so make sure that you go and get that gift card redeemed, before you can't anymore. So you can get that free coffee on us. And finally, we are giving away a free pass to Empower twenty twenty six in Houston, Texas for next May. So just by attending this webinar live, you all will be entered. And then later today, we will randomly select the winner from everyone who attended live, and we'll let you all know who the winner was. So that is all the stuff that I have for you, and I am going to now introduce our speakers. The most important part of this webinar are these two right here. So with us today, we have Michelle Hendley from the Quickbase side. She is our senior product manager, and she is going to be leading this discussion here today with our guest, Maria Anderson, who is the project coordinator and scheduler, scheduler, excuse me, at East River Electric. So with that, I'm going to turn it over to Michelle and Maria and let the two of them take it from here. Thank you so much, Charlie. My name is Michelle Henley. As Charlie just said. I am a senior product marketing manager here at Quickbase. Been here about two years. My primary focus is on our AI product, but my passion here is really hearing about how our customers use our product and solve their problems. And so we have an amazing opportunity here to chat with Maria at East River Electric. Hey, Maria. Why don't you tell us a little bit about yourself? Hey. Thanks, Michelle. I'm Maria Anderson. I'm with East River Electric Power Cooperative, which is an electric, transmission cooperative that serves all of Eastern South Dakota and Southwest Minnesota. So we do reach out into some of those areas where, some Minnesotans are on. So, we provide power to distribution co ops or co ops that provide power to end consumers. So and I am the project controller here, and I've been in this role since January 2024. I'm not new to East River, although I've only been in this role a couple years. I do I have been at East River for about twenty years, and throughout my tenure here, I have been held numerous roles, including I started out as a plan accountant. I have a degree in accounting and finance. I was a financial analyst for years, supply chain manager. And then most recently, I was a rates and billing manager. And I was getting, kind of bored with all of the numbers to an extent. And so back in November '23, I had the opportunity to take a project manager role, here. So I jumped from ad the administrative side to operations side. However, in those previous roles, I had interacted with our operations side, quite frequently. So I do have a really good breadth of the industry. And after only being in a project management role for a couple months, because of my experience at, East River. They knew that we needed to implement a new project management information system, and we started, building schedule or we needed more robust scheduling. And so, they asked me to take over the project controller role that would do just that. And so about two years into it, I've learned a lot, been able to incorporate a lot of my institutional knowledge that I've gained over the years into, building Quickbase. That's fantastic, Maria. It sounds like you really have, like, a incredible understanding of the business because you've held so many roles, and I think that kinda gives you a really unique perspective when you think about, you know, software solutions and, like, business problems. And so speaking of business problems, would love to dig into what problems specifically you were looking to solve when you came across Quickbase. Sure. I'm gonna tee this question up with a little bit of background about East River. So back in about 2018, 2019, we took a look at our system as a whole. And like I mentioned, we're all of Eastern South Dakota and into Southwest Minnesota. And, we looked at our system and realized that we needed to it was built in the fifties, early sixties, and we needed to start rebuilding our system because it essentially had reached the end of life. And we have seen a lot of growth in our system, so, we need to build, transmission line and substations to serve, that growth. And so we went from about a 70,000,000, well, about $46,000,000 work plan to about a $70,000,000 work plan in one year's time, so from about 02/1819. And then from that 70,000,000, into about 2023, we went to about a $140,000,000 work plan. So we essentially doubled what our capital expenditures were gonna be and the work. And you gotta you know, you figure inflation in there as well too. But we were facing a problem. We had a lot more work to do, and we didn't have we we didn't add very many resources to do that work. So how are we gonna accomplish it? And so, we had used a legacy platform to kinda get us by back in 02/1819. We implemented a legacy system, and that did the basic functionality, but it wasn't really user friendly. You know, management, if they wanted to go look at something, they kinda have to decipher or really know the program. And so it wasn't very, like I said, user friendly, and it wasn't very scalable. So, as we nearly doubled our work our capital expenditures, our work plan from 70,000,000 to a 140,000,000, we knew that we needed a a platform or program that was more flexible, scalable, and dynamic that we could grow with us because we you know, the the growth is kinda there's no end in sight. Or some days it feels like that. Just to provide that transparency across the organization, means to communicate, you know, key performance indicators, you know, schedule, where we at in schedules, and so on. So we were looking for a solution that would give us that flexibility, that scalable platform, that and that dynamic. And so we, were really looking for something that was robust to help us with our needs. That's awesome. we Okay. it's yeah, and it we've previously were using, like I said, a legacy software, but we're also using email, spreadsheets, and it was just many different, products to help us achieve our our goals, and we really wanted one that would help bring everything together in one spot. I feel like that's a super common problem I hear when I talk to customers. It's like you've kind of cobbled together a bunch of systems, and now you're scaling and growing, which is an amazing. thing, but, like, the systems that got you by aren't anymore. So how did you come across Quickbase? Yeah. But we you know, I was kinda put or asked to take this role in, oh, it was January 2024. And, our management team had done some previous work looking into to options. They didn't have the bandwidth to completely proceed forward, because we didn't have the in house expertise. So we looked to we hired a consulting firm to help us evaluate different solutions, And, they showed us some examples of Quickbase and what it could do for us. And, you know, it was really a solution that encompassed all of our needs and would reduce down, you know, all the different programs we're using essentially into one. And so that's how, you know, we looked at it, and we felt like it's gonna grow with us too. This isn't gonna, you know, in two years or three years, it's not gonna be, outdated and and, not being able to use it anymore. So that's how we show ended up choosing to go with Quickbase. Whenever you're kinda making those software choices, there are trade offs, I know, with any solutions. So I would love to understand what were the pros and cons of using Quickbase versus that existing legacy solution, and what stood out about Quickbase in particular that your legacy solution couldn't do? Sure. Well, like I mentioned again, we were looking for a platform that would give us, you know, multiple solutions in one, and that really accomplishes that main goal. And it provides transparency, communication across the organization. And so that was you know, our legacy software didn't really give us that. Like I mentioned earlier, it was you kinda go here. You kinda think you know what you're looking at. There wasn't, you know, a dashboard that would give graphics. There wasn't a priority list created for each user. And so just the u the user interfaces were really outstanding compared to what we had. And, I mean, Quickbase, it it was an investment for East River, but in in both time and cost. But the amount of, time that it has saved us and money that it has saved us has been very significant. You know, it's hard sometimes to make those investments in, software. But the alternative we had used was very, inexpensive, but it just didn't provide what we needed. You know, it was we realized really quickly too that Quickbase was very intuitive, very user friendly. While we did use, consultants to help us build the complex modules. I don't have a programming back background. Although, you know, I do consider myself pretty tech savvy. But, without a programming background, you know, I was a little worried as to, you know, if we needed small changes done quickly, am I gonna be able to do that? And I was assured that it was a very, user friendly, development and that changes could be made very easily. And that that did, that was very true. And I am able to do some, you know, changes and and some moderate changes as well in building up my own. So, very easy. One of the roadblocks that I think every organization hits, when they start to introduce something new is people don't like change. And so it was just that that learning curve, introducing something to new something new, get that buy in from the employee base, but that came with the legacy system too. So I wouldn't say that there's one was heavier than the other. Although, I think I'll in a little bit, I will talk about how we implemented it and, you know, the adapt adaptation rate of that. And then with one of the major pros I see with Quickbase too is just being able to aggregate information easily through the tables, and all the data is filled you could filter, sort in any so many different ways. And that's all user, you know, driven. And so any user, not just me as the administrator, can really sort and filter those the data that they wanna see very easily to help them make decisions, to identify risks, and that's really something that, Quickbase had that the other our legacy software did not have. So, and then we do we have integrated, reminders and notifications, priority lists, and that wasn't available to the extent that we have it with Quickbase either. So those are you know, there's a lot of pros. So far, I really don't see cons just because it's so much, the functionality of it is just so much greater. That's fantastic. So let's kind of jump into that implementation process because implementation and change management is challenging. So can you talk about what the implementation process looked like and how you rolled Quickbase out to your teams? Yeah. It all start I'm gonna kinda take it back to before we rolled it out, because I think it's important. When you're designing anything, it's important to put the time in to develop something that you will work in the end. And so, it all started with kind of a vision that our management set forth or, you know, there's key components that we needed to have. And then, meeting with different, the key personnel that would have input and just really being thoughtful about how we design this and how it would work and kinda did what if scenarios. And so we kind of built the structure for what we needed, and it it didn't take us very long. We did it pretty quickly. But, really, to build something and roll it out, there has to be a good vision behind it. And so I feel like that was the key to that adaptation. And so we developed one module. I refer to them as modules, but they're basically, like, one, table at a time. And then once we built that table, we tested it, and then we'd roll it out into small very small groups of people, so that we could have that one on one interaction and that, you know, trying something. If it didn't work, we could troubleshoot. And so it was really important for us to do it kind of baby steps, and take that time with each of those key groups to roll out the product to make sure that, you know, their issues and concerns with it are addressed right away, and we can fix any bugs that, you know, that were present. And we didn't it wasn't perfect, as we rolled it out, but we were able to because of its, usability and intuitive nature, it was really the fixes were happened within, you know, an hour or two. And so we we kinda dipped our toes in, and then once everybody was comfortable with the first module, the succeeding modules were much quicker to roll out because it was kind of similar functionality, but just a little bit different information that we were putting in. And there it was a learning curve, and everybody's gonna push back a little bit, to something new. We had our, you know, c suite level support and management level support, which is also key. So, getting their support and buy in to help push the product that we knew would help make us more efficient and help all of us do our jobs better was, really critical. I love that collaborative process. I feel like that really helps the adoption of Quickbase at East River. Can you dig more into some of the workflows or modules you built out in Quickbase? Yeah. We've created, oh, about five or six different separate modules that all have a unique functionality. We have our submittal management system. It gives us, structure for something that was once very unmanageable and overwhelming through email. We implemented a change management, module. And this you know, we're in the construction business, so there's change orders that come through all the time, whether it be, you know, needing more material on the field or contractors are, you know, scope has changed. And so we we incorporated a change of management module. We incorporated our schedule tracking and integration. We run our schedules out of Oracle Primavera p six, and we're able to easily drop data out of there and push it into, Quickbase that provides a, basically, overall summary of where we're at with our schedules for each of our projects. We've also got work work order management and financial integration built into Quickbase. Shows, work order details, budget information, up to date costs. We have kind of an overall program, spend where we budgeted, where we are in comparison to budget for the the specific month. And, and then finally, we implemented risk management as well. Every organization has risks of some sort, and so that was a key component that we needed, in our organization to help prevent and mitigate risks in the organ without the throughout the organization. So let's kind of, double click into a couple of these different workflows. We've we've talked to you behind the scenes, Maria. We have a really awesome case study published on your work in East River Electric, and we found, this one use case pretty cool. Can you tell us a little bit more about that submittals process you baked into Quickbase? Yes. The submittals process has been a game changer for us. We have a lot of design documents and design packages that are needed, and we utilize consultants to do a lot of our our engineering design work. And, previously, they're all being submitted through email. And I don't know about you guys, but, you know, we can get 60 to a 150 emails a day remembering to put a reminder on those to get, you know, for follow-up when things are due. They just get lost. And so, in our submittal process, that basically took place of design deliverables or any type of deliverables needed throughout the, life of a construction project. And it's really easily done now submitting, the documents through a form. You, you know, you choose which project it is, then they, copy and paste the link to from SharePoint into the submittal. You identify if it's gonna be for an internal review or external review just because having those, designators as to internal external really set the security to within ClickBank. So we don't want our, external consultants, seeing things certain things that only internal people can see. So security is kind of a side note. Being able to set those permissions in the security levels is very critical too. But so we get the submittal in there, the link to the documents. It provides you can put the date in. It's either gonna automatically fill the date that the submittal was created or you can override it, you know, if the document was maybe a day or two earlier. Then you choose who you want to review that. You set, you can also include, you know, managers or people who maybe need to see could take a look at it if they want to, but their review and approval isn't necessary. Add those individuals there. And then once it's sent out, it is, it does produce a notification that is sent to email because, you know, they're not sitting and looking at their computer or their quick based screen all day every day to see if something news popped up. So it does it does shoot over an email as a reminder or notification, that there is something out there for them to review. And then that also we have a dashboard for every user that has, basically, a priority list and when things are due and so that are assigned to just that user. And so if they have received that submittal, it's gonna show as their ball in court. They have action to take on this item, and it's gonna stay there until they've approved it or done, you know, their part of, that process. And then once they submit it, it falls off of their to do list and then or priority list, and then it goes back to the person that sent it for maybe, there's options when they're submitting or approving it. They can either approve it, they can reject it, or they can make comments or say, you need to revise this. And that kinda bounces kind kinda like a, you know, basketball game, ball on court. It's defense, offense, all that stuff. So, really helps that flow and for people to prioritize their work and to know what is still outstanding out there. So that process has been, you know I get feedback quite often from maybe people that are new in the organization or people that have been here, you know, five, ten years. I don't know how we managed this process prior to having Quickbase because, yeah, I can tell you there was a lot of things that were overlooked, that would end up ultimately pushing schedule, maybe procurement of material, what didn't happen as soon as it should based on typical lead times. So this this module that we built, and that was the first one we rolled out, has been huge for us. I love sports analogy, so I'm always game for that one. Another one that's pretty interesting is, you know, you're in the utility industry, Maria, but many customers across all of the industries we serve talk about risk and how they can better manage it in general. The case study mentions, and you mentioned a few minutes ago, that you also have a risk management platform built into Quickbase. Can you elaborate on that one as well? Yes. Risk was a big one of the nonnegotiables that we needed when we built this. And, so we we created a risk matrix and a risk module that allowed anytime a risk came along or anytime a risk comes along, the you know, whoever identifies that risk, we'll put that we'll start we'll log that risk, and, they're entered based on for us, it's for a project, a specific project. Okay. What is that risk? We give it a descriptor that's, you know, if this happens, then this will happen. So it's just a quick kinda one liner that just says what the risk is and what the impact could be. And then, we we identify what phase of the project that risk is in, what is causing the risk, a probability rating, and then an impact rating. So that's, you know, your typical risk matrix all within a form that you choose, and then it gives that risk a score. And so we have a threshold of anything that's above a 15 is going to be elevated to management at a certain level. So it really can bring those critical risks to light to the people that need to we need, involved to address it. And just like the submittals, you know, you identify reviewers within the submittals. You identify reviewers or critical parties within a risk as well. So that same same concept. We've got a risk component on a dashboard. So if you've created a risk or if you're, you know, tagged in a risk, it's gonna come up on your dashboard that something needs to happen because or we could have schedule or cost impact or both. And so, that really helps bring those risks to the correct authorities that need to help us work through those. There's a logging system within that risk form that, you know, say I have I say, Michelle, we have an issue here. What are we gonna do about it? And I'll log it, and then she can respond and say, well, here's what I think we need to do. And that's logged, and nobody can change that log. And it it times and dates it. So, you know, I see this on occasion. Our coordinators are nervous about a risk, and they'll look and see if there's been any response on it, and there's not. So you can see if it's been you know, action has been taken just to try to mitigate that risk or help them them out. And, you know, as time goes on, that risk can become more critical, so you can elevate that. You can go back in there and you can elevate that risk. So, you know, we're three months before our deadline to procure steel. Well, now we're two months behind. This risk has now gotten, you know, more critical. And so then, you know, we've got a log of all these various risks. And what I really like it, because I am a very analytical person, is the table that we've got all these risks logged, Whether they're active or if they've been addressed and are closed out, you can sort through all of the risks and kinda see, okay. Where are the majority of our risks occurring? Are they occurring, you know, in because of supply chain issues? Are they occurring because of, regulatory issues, land acquisition issues? And that that being able to filter through that and see how many risks are in each category really helps that management team come up with solutions to help prevent those risks to from continuing to happen. So to me, that's a huge thing. You know? Solving the risk in the moment, that's just it's reactive, but it allows us to have a to deploy proactive strategy to help reduce risk. And so that's been very, very, very valuable, tool within Quickbase. I love that. And you've mentioned, you know, you've been able to be more proactive. You've gotten some anecdotal feedback from your coworkers about how great the systems are working. But let's talk a little bit more about the results you've seen and the feedback you've received in general. Yeah. You know, at first, everybody's like, oh, we have to learn a new system. Here we go again. And I know organizations of any sort, have you know, they've got their successes, but a lot of times, they have their failures in in rolling out new software. And, I'm not gonna lie. We've had a couple failures with different types of software, over the years. And it's like, oh, you know, when I took on this this task of helping, build Quickbase, I was just like, I just hope it doesn't end up like the last few that we've tried. You know? And, I really was had the mindset that that we were gonna succeed. And, based on the feedback that we've I've received from, you know, my peers, everybody across the organization, it really has been a success. They found that it's really quick to learn, very intuitive, like I've mentioned a few different times. But the usability of it is is very it's great, and they've learned how to use it. We've made some tweaks here and there. If they you know, if there's something like, well, this would be better if we did that. And so, the feedback from that is that, wow, you can you're not a programmer, but you can still go and make these changes for me within ten, fifteen minutes. And it get got us exactly what we needed. And so the feedback has been very positive. And having those dashboards customized to each user, really helps them prioritize their work, stay on track, on task, and, get their work done. We've you know, I don't know where we would be today, with if we didn't have Quickbase because we'd be losing, you know, losing track of priorities and having, you know, just really struggling in those aspects. And we're at a time, and so is much of the rest of the working world, where we have to do more with less. And Quickbase has allowed us to do just that, is be more efficient and really help us, get the things that we need to accomplish to stay on on target and on on budget. So, great feedback from everybody. Maria, you actually have some hard numbers around your savings. Can you share. those with us? We have estimated an annual savings of about $436,000. And that includes, you know, the efficiency gains. You're looking at saving about one to two, if not more, full time employees. Not that we don't wanna grow our employee base, but when we are a nonprofit, we also have to, save where we can. And so not having to add an additional, you know, additional resources to help accomplish the goal, was a huge savings. Risk mitigation, there's a lot of projects that are critical. You know, there's a big say, there's a big ethanol plant or soybean plant that has is being built and we're building facilities to serve that. There's can be a lot of money lost if we're not hitting those targets in schedule and design construction to serve that load. So, all those things were considered into that $436,000, and that's an annual savings. And then a net savings of about a $165,000, And that's, you know, our initial investment. It was a big investment, but it was one that, you know, looking at our return on investment, we're, you know, right around 38% return on investment. And that's that's significant for us because it it helps keep morale up by having a tool that can save people time. It saves us money. And, you know, this estimate is just, you know, just at the start of everything too. As we continue, it'll continue to show more savings as we progress through, you know, our construction. So, great, you know, positive savings and and just overall very great investment. Yeah. That's a those are, like, really, really strong numbers in a very short period of time. And, of. course, like, as people you know, in my job, I love anything that makes my job easier to do. You know what. I mean? It. just sounds like Quickbase does that for you. So to kind of wrap the questions that we have for you, I would love to know what advice you would give to somebody who is maybe on this call and considering Quickbase. Yeah. Well, if you're you know, I'm in the utility industry, but I feel like Quickbase could help any type of industry out or organization. If you're managing projects or workflows or people, and if you can imagine or envision something in a workflow, it can be created in with in Quickbase. It's an invaluable invaluable tool that'll help you become more efficient, give you confidence in your data, and position you to grow, and continually improve your business. And it's not the, you know, it's not the least expensive option. But I think, you know, it's kinda like buying I'm a shoe a big shoe person. You buy a pair of shoes for $20, they're gonna last you two months. You buy a shoe pair of shoes for $200, they're gonna last you, I don't know, five, six, ten years. You know, it's you pay for what you get and, but making the investment in your organization, that'll save you more year after year and inefficiencies and help you mitigate those risks and provide that transparency off across your organization, it is well worth the investment. Fantastic. I know we we covered quite a bit in the last half hour. Just kind of last call, if anyone wants to drop in questions in the q and a, we have a couple minutes that we can go ahead and answer them. I did see a question about, a demo of the East River, system. We cannot show the exact East River flow, but, we'd love to take some time to walk through different examples or templates one on one if you reach out directly to your AE or CSM. Does any okay. That's a great question. Maria, is there a project you would love to build out next in Quickbase? Yes. And I the options are really you can build anything. One thing that I'm looking to build here in the next few months is going to be, with our construction, we have to obtain a lot of permits. And so, I wanna build out a permitting module for, to know what permits are relevant for each project, what the status is of those permits. We can have anywhere from, you know, no permits on a project to 15 to 20. And they can include, you know, the PUC, the Public Utilities Commission, state and county governments. And they're all important and can cause a project to come to a halt if those permits are not acquired. And so that's something that has become a priority to us, and we're looking to build out in the future. That's really exciting. We'd love to hear about it when you get that built out. And I also see a question here that since we have some Minnesotans, and I hope I got that right. Charlie, you can, like, call me out if I got that wrong, when you come back on stage, but there's some interest in maybe having a crew group. And, Charlie says he has won it as a local Minnesota quick baser. So note that, we're we definitely have some interest, and we can explore that. Does anybody else have any other questions before I welcome mister Charlie back up? Alright. Well, thank you so much, Maria. This was an amazing conversation, Yes. and. welcome back, Charlie. Thank you. Thank you for having me back. Great to have you both speaking. It was a great story. Maria, always appreciate chatting with you and, very much appreciate your willingness willingness to share your story, with Everun super broadly. It's, super cool to hear about. I know super helpful for, our other customers to hear about how you're using it and how other people are using Quickbase as well. So thank you both so much. I always appreciate when people don't have to hear me talk on webinars for a half an hour, and I'm sure everyone appreciated a little break from me as well. So, with that, it looks like Michelle, like you said, there's no other questions. But I will address that, crew meetup group for Minnesota because, yes, I am based in Minneapolis. I know we always have quite a few people from, the Minnesota Twin Cities area on our webinars. So, I have that as a takeaway from today's webinar is to connect with our, crew meetup leaders and see what we can do to get something going, locally here in Minnesota. But I would love to, have some crew meetups and be able to meet all of you who are always on these webinars. So, and there's a little plug for our crew, in general and our crew meetups as well while we're at it. Those are great resources for you all to be a part of. So in Charleston, South Carolina. If we have any other Southerners, like, let me know. I love it. I love it. Alright. I am gonna just screen share this last quick, slide for everyone. So once again, Michelle, Maria, thank you both so so much for the time today. Thanks to everyone who was on for attending, and for chatting in and asking questions, things like that. Just some final, again, additional notes about today's session. We did record this. We will send that out via email tomorrow, so stay tuned for that recording as well as some, additional resources, kind of tying into Maria's story as well. Quick reminder on the coffee gift card, if you have not redeemed that yet, please do so. That link will expire after the weekend, so make sure to redeem that gift card. Grab a coffee on us as a thank you for joining us here today. And then again, all of you who attended live are eligible to, win our free empower pass for Empower twenty six in Houston next May. So we will, randomly choose a winner from all of the pool of attendees, and we will, reach out and then let you all know who the big winner was in tomorrow's recap email as well. So, with that, there's some links on the screen, quickbase.com/empower being the big one since I just kind of plugged Empower twenty twenty six, but, we're super excited for that event. You'll hear a ton of more great case studies like Maria just shared today, be able to share new use cases and see ways other people are using Quickbase and Fastfield. We'll have, as always, exclusive product announcements, on-site trainings that you can't get anywhere else. It's a great event. Hope to see you all there. It was a blast being in New Orleans with a bunch of you last year, and I cannot wait to be in Houston in May in 2026 for that event as well. So with that, we will wrap things up. Thanks again to Michelle and Maria. Thanks, everyone, for joining, and have a wonderful rest of your day.